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Summary of May 3, 2017 Member Meeting

posted May 19, 2017, 12:06 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: May 3, 2017

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin


The meeting was convened at 8:10 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding Building Safety Month DuPont reported that he requested his State Senator and Representative to once again propose a joint resolution recognizing May as Building Safety Month in Wisconsin. Representative Hesselbein’s Office had initiated a joint resolution based on the one that passed in 2015. With input from the ARC, the draft resolution is being updated to reflect the theme for 2017. As a result the resolution has not yet been scheduled for a floor vote in either house.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont reported that the office of Representative Kerkman has requested updated briefing materials from the ARC for Rep. Kerkman’s use when routing the draft bill for additional legislative sponsors. DuPont said he would continue to work towards introduction of the bill during the current session of the legislature.

Regarding the DSPS plan review delegation moratorium DuPont recapped the April 21st, meeting between Kirsten Reader, of the DSPS; Will Neitzel, of the Governor’s Office; and representatives of the Alliance for Regulatory Coordination and the League of Wisconsin Municipalities.

DuPont said the audits seemed to focus on plan review as being the only safety net in place. He said it was not clear to him whether the DSPS ever looked at the completed projects to determine how the communities programs of plan review, permits and inspections worked as a system.

Brian Flannery said that he spoke to staff from the City of Oshkosh, who told him they had little notice from the DSPS of the impending audit. The audit result letter was thought to be confusing because of the term “recommendation” being used frequently – instead of citing any applicable “requirements”.

Richard Paur said that it seems reasonable for the DSPS to try to find out how municipal programs are doing; and that uniform code application seems like a reasonable goal. Ed Lisinski agreed that audits are not a bad thing; but the delegation moratorium, and lack of disseminated standards, is problematic.

Richard reminded that the International Code Council has both plan review and inspection checklists available for state and municipal regulators to use. He suggested that perhaps the state should encourage or require use of checklists based on the ICC lists, with an addendum specific to Wisconsin code and statute requirements. He said the City of Milwaukee is not using the ICC checklists but is considering use of more such checklists as a way of providing more uniform services.

Richard described how, in Milwaukee, the current building boom has resulted in designers tackling projects larger than they had previously been involved with. As a result, he believes more incomplete plans are being submitted for review, which places a bigger burden on plan reviewers, and ultimately on inspectors, if such plans are approved with significant conditions of approval. Richard suggested that perhaps there should be a standardized way for municipal and state officials to refer designers to the licensing boards of the DSPS if they repeatedly submit incomplete or substandard plans for review.

Matt Mertens said that incomplete plans approved by the DSPS also put too much pressure on municipal inspectors. He said it is very difficult to explain to contractors that the plan approved by the state is not acceptable for constructing a building that will be in compliance with the applicable codes.

DuPont reviewed the possible ARC reactions listed on the meeting agenda: wait to see when the DSPS ends their moratorium; request a budget bill amendment that would prohibit delegation moratoriums; or request comprehensive legislation that would empower municipalities to perform sole plan review and inspections. DuPont suggested that additional ideas could be considered based on today’s dialogue.

DuPont suggested that consideration be given to recommending audits be performed by a team consisting of representatives of several entities, such as the ARC, the Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance and the League of Wisconsin Municipalities. He also suggested consideration of using third party regulatory audit services, similar to what is used in the federal program for manufactured homes; although such services would likely involve additional costs to participating municipalities.

Matt Mertens suggested consideration of a peer review program where peers from similar sized municipalities would be grouped and coordinated to provide reviews and critiques for each other. He said that getting audited by DSPS plan reviewers, who themselves often miss items during their own plan review, could be unsettling for many municipal programs.

It was agreed that a workgroup should be formed to develop recommendations to all ARC members relative to the current DSPS moratorium on delegations and on long term improvements that would help solidify the DSPS role as a coordinating entity for municipal plan review and inspection programs. It was agreed that the Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance would take the lead in forming the workgroup, with members including, at least, Ed Lisinski, Richard Paur, Brian Flannery and Matt Mertens. DuPont said he would work with WCOA to have recommendations ready for all ARC members to consider during the next ARC member meeting in July.

In response to a question from DuPont, Jeff Beiriger said that he has not heard complaints from plumbing contractors about the plan review delegation moratorium. Jeff said that contractors want timely services, with some concerned that DSPS plan reviews lately have not been as complete as they should be.

It was mentioned that the DSPS has also recently audited the plumbing plan review operations of several municipalities. It was agreed that DuPont should request, from Kirsten Reader of the DSPS, information about the plumbing audits; with that information then to be shared with ARC members.

Richard Paur suggested that the moratorium/delegation workgroup consider a system where municipal candidates for DSPS delegation are required to demonstrate their abilities before delegation takes place. DuPont said such a policy should be implemented through administrative rules, but he agreed that all ideas for improvement of the delegation program should be considered by the workgroup.

Regarding the DSPS proposal to limit certified municipality review of building alterations DuPont recapped that the DSPS has proposed a code change that would significantly impact many municipal plan review programs. The proposal includes changes to Section SPS 361.60 (5) (c) 3., Wisconsin Administrative Code, which delineates some of the types of projects for which plans may be reviewed by certified municipalities.

This proposed change would significantly reduce the number of plans that could be reviewed by DSPS certified municipalities. After discussion of the problems associated with this proposal, it was agreed that the moratorium/delegation workgroup should address this matter also.

DuPont said his goal would be to have a recommendation developed on this topic as soon as possible – so that ARC members can consider whether the Alliance should submit comments to the DSPS and perhaps legislative committees involved in review of the DSPS code change package concerning update of the Wisconsin Commercial Building Code.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for July 26, 2017, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 a.m.

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Brian Flannery

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Corey Gall

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

Ed Lisinski

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Jeff Beiriger

Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors of Wisconsin

Joe Hertel

Wisconsin Electrical Trades Council

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Matt Mertens

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Paul Scott

Southwestern Wisconsin Building Inspectors Association

Richard Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Tim Schmitz

International Code Council

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC


This meeting summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on May 19, 2017.

Summary of Member Meeting on February 10, 2017

posted Mar 2, 2017, 7:36 AM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: February 10, 2017

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin



The meeting was convened at 9:00 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont reported that the office of Representative Kerkman has requested a revised bill draft based on ARC feedback provided to Representative Kerkman on November 3, 2016. Their office is still waiting for the bill draft and will send the newest draft to DuPont when it becomes available.

Regarding the stoppage of DSPS plan review delegation to communities DuPont asked Tom Johnson to provide information about the Village of Grafton’s experience in this regard. Tom said that the village had requested delegated agent status for the purpose of reviewing commercial building fire sprinkler and alarm plans. Their request was submitted to the DSPS in April, 2016, and they were just recently informed that the DSPS is not granting further requests for appointed agent status at this time.

DuPont said that he was contacted by DA Mattox, of Safebuilt, Inc., who said that several communities they work with have received delegation denial letters; some for delegation as a certified municipality and others for delegation as an appointed agent. Mattox told DuPont that in early 2016 Safebuilt was encouraged by Jeff Weigand, of the DSPS, to encourage communities to participate in plan review and inspection as DSPS certified municipalities and DSPS appointed agents. After months of preparation in that regard, Mr. Mattox expressed frustration to DuPont that the DSPS has apparently placed a moratorium on recognizing additional certified municipalities and appointed agents.

Mr. Mattox also told DuPont that he had been in contact with Jerry Deschane, Executive Director of the League of Wisconsin Municipalities, about the delegation moratorium. Deschane subsequently contacted the DSPS and reported to Mattox that the DSPS had said they wanted to get a better handle on the delegation situation before they recognize additional certified municipalities or appointed agents.

In response to a question from DuPont, John Schulze said he has not heard any reason for the DSPS moratorium on delegations. He said there continues to be turn-over in managers within the Department, with Jeff Weigand leaving for a job at the Department of Transportation, and a new DSPS Secretary expected to be named soon, to replace Dave Ross, who is now the Secretary of the DOT. John said the ABC continues to support the participation of certified municipalities and delegated agents in state level plan review and inspection services.

DuPont said one possible reason for the moratorium is that the ARC may have raised awareness of the delegation situation with its request to the Governor about deleting the statute that requires the DSPS to charge participation fees to Second Class Cities that conduct expanded plan reviews as certified municipalities. He said that concerns about loss of plan review revenue could also be a factor under consideration by the DSPS.

After a brief discussion it was agreed that DuPont should contact Jerry Deschane to see if the League of Wisconsin Municipalities would work with the ARC on this issue, including a possible meeting with the DSPS. It was also agreed that DuPont should work with John Schulze, of ABC; and Ed Lisinski, of WCOA; to organize the possible meeting with the DSPS Secretary’s Office.

Regarding Governor Walker’s Budget Proposal DuPont reminded that the ARC had sent two letters to the Governor with requests relative to the next biennial budget: an end to lapsing of funds from the S&B appropriation; and repeal of the DSPS participation fee for second class cities that conduct expanded plan review. He said that he saw no mention of lapsing related to the DSPS in the Governors budget proposal which was released on February 8th. DuPont also said he saw no mention of a repeal of DSPS participation fees.

Meeting attendees next reviewed DuPont’s summary of Governor Walker’s budget proposal which was shared with ARC members on February 9th, with the following results.
  • Regarding the DSPS proposal to change their plan review availability goal from an annual average from five days to 13 days, it was agreed that this topic should be added to the agenda of the proposed meeting with the DSPS concerning delegation of plan review and inspection duties to municipalities. The general consensus was that by adding more certified municipalities and appointed agents the DSPS could achieve better plan review availability.
  • Regarding the DSPS goal for audits, it was agreed that the question should be asked of DSPS why they apparently left the Uniform Dwelling Code Program out of their audit goal statement. It was suggested that this question could be asked during the above-mentioned proposed meeting with DSPS officials.
  • Regarding the lapsing of funds from the Safety and Buildings Appropriation, DuPont said he would investigate the situation further by contacting the Wisconsin Legislative Fiscal Bureau and report his findings to ARC members as soon as possible.

Concerning next steps related to the Governor’s Budget Proposal there was general agreement that DuPont should draft a letter to members of the Legislative Joint Finance Committee communicating the ARC position against lapsing of funds from the Safety and Buildings Appropriation. DuPont said he would draft such a letter for review by ARC members.

Regarding the DSPS project to update the Wisconsin Commercial Building Code, Richard Paur asked if anyone had heard what the projected timeline was. DuPont said that at the last meeting of the Commercial Building Code Council, DSPS officials said their goal was to have an effective date of mid-summer to early autumn. They informed the council that the ISO Building Code Effectiveness Grade for Wisconsin’s code administration program would be downgraded if the Wisconsin Commercial Building Code does not adopt the 2015 International Building Code by October 1, 2017.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for May 3, 2017, from 8:00 to 9:30 a.m. The earlier time slot is intended to accommodate participant’s prior commitments on that day. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 a.m.

 

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Corey Gall

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

Ed Lisinski

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Fred Walling

Southwestern Wisconsin Building Inspectors Association

Joe Hertel

Wisconsin Electrical Trades Council

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Richard Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Satula

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Tim Schmitz

International Code Council

Tom Clark

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Tom Johnson

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC



This meeting summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on March 2, 2017.

Summary of October 18, 2016 Member Meeting

posted Nov 3, 2016, 12:50 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting

Meeting Date: October 18, 2016

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin




The meeting was convened at 9:05 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation attendees reviewed DuPont’s recommendations concerning the second preliminary bill draft received from the office of Representative Kerkman in July. Those in attendance agreed that DuPont should next ask ARC members not in attendance at the meeting, to let him know if they have any concerns with the decisions made by those at the meeting. DuPont said he would send the ARC comments and recommendations to Representative Kerkman if no Classic ARC Member expresses concerns or opposition to such action.

Regarding the next biennial budget attendees reviewed the two white papers and three letters to Governor Walker that DuPont had developed and recommended to ARC members. Those in attendance agreed that all three letters (and the two corresponding white papers) should be sent to the Governor as soon as possible for his consideration while developing the next state budget.

The documents relate to the following three topics:
  • Letter and white paper on discontinuing lapsing of fee revenues from the Safety and Buildings Operations Appropriation;
  • Letter on retaining the statutorily created Automatic Fire Sprinkler System Contractors and Journeymen Council and Plumbers Council; and
  • Letter and white paper on deleting the statutory requirement that the Department of Safety and Professional Service charge fees to second class cities who are delegated the authority to conduct expanded plan review as delegated agents of the DSPS.

Those in attendance agreed that DuPont should next ask ARC members not in attendance at the meeting, to let him know if they have any concerns with the decisions made by those at the meeting. DuPont said he would send the letters to Governor Walker if no Classic ARC Member expresses concerns or opposition to such action.

Regarding possible ARC positions on upcoming rule change packages of the DSPS, DuPont said he anticipates proposing that the ARC formally express support of the following expected code change proposals from the DSPS.
  • The Electrical Code Update Package, because it is expected to contain rules to implement statewide inspection of electrical construction for new commercial buildings as required by 2007 Wisconsin Act 63 and 2013 Wisconsin Act 143.
  • The Commercial Building Code Update Package, because it proposes to adopt the 2015 editions of the International Code Council National Model Codes in lieu of the 2009 editions now adopted in Wisconsin.
  • The Erosion Control Update Package, because it reflects 2013 Wisconsin Act 20, which transferred much authority over erosion control, from the DSPS to the Department of Natural Resources.
  • The Liquefied Gas Supplier Financial Responsibility Package, because it reflects 2015 Wisconsin Act 327, which was supported by the ARC.

DuPont said he expects to query ARC members regarding these four code change packages as they become available for public comment later this year. He suggested that the Alliance communicate general support of the packages, leaving the door open to individual ARC member organizations to address technical aspects as they see fit. There was agreement on this general plan of action.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for February 2, 2017, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 a.m.

 

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Brian Juarez

International Assoc. of Electrical Inspectors, Wisconsin Chapter

Jeff Beiriger

Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors, Wisconsin Association

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

Matt Mertens

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Martin King

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Richard Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC



This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on November 3, 2016.

Priorities of the Alliance as of July 27, 2016

posted Aug 17, 2016, 3:00 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Priorities

As of July 27, 2016



1) Stop the lapsing of funds from the Safety and Buildings Appropriation.

Between 2001 and 2016, over $17.4 million of DSPS Industry Services fee revenue has been lapsed to the state general fund. That is more than $96,000 per month that was collected but not spent on the safety and building programs and services for which the fees were paid.


2) Encourage the DSPS to maintain a focus on customers with customer involvement in DSPS decisions regarding services of the Industry Services Division.

The Alliance supports use of advisory code councils for periodic updating of administrative codes concerning safety and buildings.


3) Improve the deployment of resources among programs and services for safety and buildings.

The Alliance supports the use of consistent criteria for deployment of resources among programs and services related to safety and buildings.


4) Improve coordination of state and municipal regulatory efforts for safety and buildings.

ARC members believe that state policies can be most efficiently and effectively administered through cooperative efforts of state and municipal programs and personnel.


5) Encourage remedial legislation on carbon monoxide detectors in residential commercial buildings.

ARC members want to focus on protecting sleeping areas from the hazard of carbon monoxide while eliminating the statewide mandate for periodic inspection of carbon monoxide detector installations.


6) Encourage legislation that would allow a building owner the choice of having newer national model codes and standards apply to their building construction project.

ARC members believe owner’s choice of code application will help spur economic development while promoting safe buildings. Use of new codes and standards can also result in savings on insurance premiums.


7) Encourage code update activity specifically for:
  • Implementing electrical inspection for commercial buildings under 2007 Wis. Act 63 and 2013 Wis. Act 143.
  • Reviewing the 2015 editions of ICC codes to update the State Commercial Building Code.
  • Reviewing the 2015 edition of NFPA 1 to update the State Fire Prevention Code.
  • Reviewing the State Uniform Plumbing Code for necessary updates and clarifications.

8) Participate in Wisconsin Emergency Management efforts to create Building Safety Evaluation Strike Teams to help respond to disasters.

ARC members encourage disaster mitigation through use of appropriate safety codes, and they encourage disaster response by qualified volunteers who help assess building safety.


9) Explore the idea for statewide inspection of commercial building construction.

ARC members believe exploration is appropriate in light of the gap that exists between the Wisconsin Uniform Dwelling Code and the Wisconsin Uniform Commercial Building Code. While the dwelling code requires inspections, the commercial building code does not. Exploration will focus on inspections as recommended by the International Code Council. Dialogue will involve all interested ARC members as well as others involved in building design, construction, regulation and emergency response activities throughout Wisconsin.

10) Monitor the activities and recommendations of the Governor’s Commission on Government Reform, Efficiency and Performance as they relate to safety and buildings.

ARC members recognize there are opportunities for greater efficiency through more collaboration between state agencies and between state and municipal programs. However, discontinuing services can adversely affect public safety as well as the business community.

Summary of July 27, 2016 Member Meeting

posted Aug 17, 2016, 2:48 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: July 27, 2016

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin




The meeting was convened at 9:05 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding the DSPS response about possible credentialing changes
DuPont summarized the letter sent to ARC from Joy Staab, Administrator of the Division of Professional Credential Processing, Department of Safety and Professional Services. The brief letter thanked ARC for its June 15, 2016 letter to the Department and closed with the sentence “A meeting is not necessary at this time.” DuPont asked if ARC members would like him to ask the Department for clarification of that sentence; does it mean that changes are not being contemplated by the DSPS, or does it mean ARC input is not desired at this time? After brief discussion it was agreed that DuPont should request clarification from the DSPS by sending an email to Joy Staab. DuPont said he would keep ARC members informed as to the DSPS response.

Ed Ruckriegel raised a tangential issue concerning state credentialing requirements for elevator inspectors. He said the state requirements are too stringent and should be revisited. DuPont suggested that topic be discussed during consideration of ARC priorities later in this meeting. Ed agreed.

Regarding the idea for owner’s choice of code application DuPont reported that Brian Flannery, of the Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance had been in contact with Jeff Weigand, in the DSPS Secretary’s Office, regarding this idea. According to Brian, Weigand said the DSPS has been studying petitions for variance submissions and is considering how granted petitions may relate to, or drive, code changes. According to Weigand, the Department is looking at the owner’s choice idea as a possible code change, and it may be discussed with the Commercial Building Code Council during their meeting on August 2, 2016. DuPont said he plans on attending that code council meeting to monitor, and if possible, participate in any discussion on this subject.

DuPont said it is not clear whether the DSPS would implement the idea as originally proposed by the ARC. He said the Wisconsin Commercial Building Code contains provisions for the Department to administratively recognize newer codes and standards found by the DSPS to be at least equivalent to currently adopted codes and standards. Under that code provision, the Department could approve use of newer editions of DSPS adopted national model codes and standards. However, through utilization of the current code provisions, the Department could leave it up to owners or designers to decide whether or not to use the newer national model code editions, leaving out provisions for the local code official to have input relative to the municipality having the resources to adequately administer such newer codes and standards. DuPont said the DSPS likely could implement the original ARC idea for owner’s choice idea through a code change; with such code change including the provision that local officials would have to agree to the use of newer codes and standards in their communities.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont reported that he had just recently received the second preliminary bill draft from the office of Representative Samantha Kerkman. He said he would review the draft and prepare an analysis for ARC members, similar to what he prepared for the first draft, and send it to all ARC members as soon as possible. The Carbon Monoxide Detection Work Group would then be relied upon to develop any further changes for consideration by all ARC members.

Regarding the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement DuPont reported that Wisconsin Emergency Management (WEM) is considering the ARC recommendation made to WEM since the April ARC meeting. He said that WEM staff recently reported they have been busy dealing with weather-related emergencies and have not forgotten about the ARC recommendation. The recommendation from ARC was that the agreement initially treat Wisconsin as one geographic region for administrative purposes; and that a work group be formed to further advise on development and implementation of the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement. The recommended work group would consist of one representative from each of the following five statewide associations: Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance; Wisconsin State Fire Chief’s Association; League of Wisconsin Municipalities; Wisconsin Counties Association; and Wisconsin Towns Association.

Regarding weekly emails on DSPS plan review availability DuPont asked if the weekly information he has recently been sending, about DSPS plan review, was useful and a desired service. He offered that a separate email distribution list could be created just for the weekly plan review updates. After brief discussion it was agreed the weekly emails should continue going to the current ARC member email contact list, with several members commenting that the information has been helpful and the current email format is easy to manage. DuPont said he would continue sending the emails on a weekly basis.

Regarding review of ARC activities and discussion of priorities DuPont led a review of the July 2016 Status Report document he had prepared and sent to members along with the meeting agenda. There was no disagreement expressed relative to the status of activities as reported by DuPont.

Discussion next turned to the proposed new ARC priority – monitoring the activities and recommendations of the Governor’s Commission on Government Reform, Efficiency and Performance as they relate to safety and buildings customers, programs and services of the DSPS. DuPont said he proposed this priority after researching Executive Order 179, which created the Commission, and after reviewing Commission activities of the past eight months. He said that the commission has discussed methods of measuring performance of state programs with an eye towards possibly ending programs felt to be ineffective. With the assistance of the Department of Administration, the Commission is set to issue a final report of findings and recommendations prior to introduction of the 2017-19 Biennial Budget Bill. (Introduction of the budget is expected in January 2017).

The work of this commission can be viewed as an opportunity or a threat. As ARC members have recognized, there certainly are opportunities for achieving greater efficiency through more coordination between state agencies and between state and municipal programs. However, discontinuing services such as trade licensing, plan review or inspections can affect not only public safety. Stopping of such services could profoundly affect businesses, trades and local officials involved in building construction and the promotion of public safety.

After a brief discussion by attendees, it was agreed that this matter should be added to the list of ARC priorities for the upcoming year.

DuPont suggested that the issue raised earlier by Ed Ruckriegel, relative to required qualifications for elevator inspectors be worked on under the current ARC priority related to coordination of state and municipal regulatory efforts for safety and buildings. Ed and others agreed to this strategy.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for October 18, 2016, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 a.m.

 

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Brian Juarez

International Assoc. of Electrical Inspectors, Wisconsin Chapter

Corey Gall

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

Ed Ruckriegel

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

James Smith

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Jeff Beiriger

Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors, Wisconsin Association

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Matt Mertens

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Martin King

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Richard Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC



This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on August 17, 2016.

Summary of April 27, 2016 Member Meeting

posted May 16, 2016, 7:56 AM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination 

Summary of Member Meeting 

Meeting Date: April 27, 2016 

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin 


The meeting was convened at 9:07 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding the idea for owner’s choice of code application DuPont reported on his communications with three other organizations about their interest in this matter. He met with Brad Boycks in early April, with Brad saying he will discuss the idea with the WBA legislation committee. Tom Larson, representing the Commercial Real Estate Development Association, Wisconsin Chapter, informed Bob that he would discuss the ARC idea with Association leaders during May, and would report back soon thereafter. Bob also has a meeting set with Jim Boullion in early May to discuss the ARC idea.

DuPont asked whether there was still support for the ARC to contact the DSPS about the owner’s choice idea and about reviewing department records concerning petitions for variance to use newer model codes and standards. There was general agreement that DuPont should do so; working with Brian Flannery, of WCOA. DuPont said he would report progress on such contact during the next ARC Member Meeting.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont referred to the written materials he had previously sent to all ARC members concerning the initial bill draft on carbon monoxide detection for commercial residential buildings. He asked if there were any concerns with the recommended comments developed by the Carbon Monoxide Detection Work Group. No concerns were raised. There was general agreement that those comments should be submitted to Representative Samantha Kerkman from the ARC. DuPont said he would submit the comments and also suggest a meeting with staff of Representative Kerkman, the legislative drafting attorney, Chief Bloom and himself, to help explain the ARC comments and viewpoint.

Regarding the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement DuPont asked if there were any concerns with his recommendation that the ARC make two suggestions to Wisconsin Emergency Management (WEM) as follows: 1) that the agreement initially treat Wisconsin as one geographic region for administrative purposes; and 2) that a work group be formed to further advise on development and implementation of the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement. The recommended work group would consist of one representative from each of the following five statewide associations: Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance; Wisconsin State Fire Chief’s Association; League of Wisconsin Municipalities; Wisconsin Counties Association; and Wisconsin Towns Association.

Marty King suggested that consideration be directed toward having the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement be written as an amendment to the Mutual Aid Box Alarm System (MABAS) agreement already in use throughout much of Wisconsin. He suggested that building inspectors could simply be added to the MABAS agreement as a type of resource to be shared among participating communities. Dave Bloom said that the MABAS program requires that each participating community sign an identical agreement. As a result, all currently participating communities would have to simultaneously agree to any amendment.

Dave and Marty suggested this could be a question for Brian Satula of WEM to consider. DuPont said he would pose the question to WEM staff and specifically ask that Brian Satula be involved in their consideration of it.

There was general agreement that DuPont should contact the League of Wisconsin Municipalities, Wisconsin Counties Association and Wisconsin Towns Association about their potential participation on a work group to advise WEM on development and implementation of the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement.

Regarding ARC participation on the Healthcare Code Committee DuPont said that the Wisconsin Healthcare Engineering Association (WHEA) sponsors a code development committee that includes representation from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services (DHS). He said DHS and WHEA have invited him to represent the Alliance for Regulatory Coordination at upcoming meetings. DuPont ask if ARC members thought this was a good idea. There was general agreement that DuPont should attend the upcoming meetings of this committee and keep ARC members informed on committee proceedings.

Regarding possible changes to the DSPS credentialing computer system and services DuPont said that he believes the Department is considering consolidation of the old Safety and Buildings credentialing system with the old Department of Regulation and Licensing credentialing system. He said his belief is based on the Department Budget, which contains spending authority for computer programming related to credentialing, and on comments made by DSPS leaders about merging the credentialing systems for greater efficiency.

DuPont said he feels it more likely that the DSPS would shift towards the DRL model, where continuing education credits are not tracked by the Department and where continuing education courses are not approved by the Department prior to their presentation. He said that past changes to the continuing education cycle, which aligned continuing education deadlines with credential expiration dates, may be a harbinger of things to come, where the Department would no longer track education credits.

Previously, under the Department of Commerce, administrative rules on credentialing provided a time cushion between the deadlines for obtaining continuing education credits and credential expiration dates. That cushion was designed to allow the Department to notify credential holders of their continuing education credit balance, thereby helping credential holders avoid problems related to renewing their credentials. DuPont said that change was made with input and support from all affected trades as a method for the Department to avoid customer conflicts and enforcement actions.

DuPont recalled that when continuing education initially went into effect for plumbers under the Department of Industry, Labor and Human Relations, the original plan was to operate the program similar to how the Department of Regulation and Licensing operated their programs for professionals such as architects and engineers. Under the original DILHR program there was no ongoing Departmental tracking of continuing education credits. Rather, enforcement was designed to be through audits of credential holders where the Department would check course attendance records after the fact and then take enforcement action.

When DILHR implemented the DRL model for plumbers for the first time there was much confusion among credential holders and much clamor for DILHR to provide the service of tracking continuing education credits. Several plumbers contacted legislators, and many more complained directly to DILHR. DuPont recalled the DILHR Secretary decided it would be more efficient and customer friendly for DILHR to hire a program assistant to keep track of plumber’s continuing education credits than to hire one or more attorneys to handle continuing education audit consequences and enforcement actions related to credential non-renewal, suspension or revocation.

After a brief discussion of the pros and cons of having the DSPS continue to approve continuing education courses and track continuing education credits there was agreement that the ARC should inform the DSPS of interest in this matter, and to ask for dialogue between ARC and DSPS in this regard. DuPont said he would draft a letter to DSPS and provide it to ARC members for review and comment.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for July 27, 2016, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:40 a.m.

 

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Brian Flannery

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Corey Gall

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

Ed Ruckriegel

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

Jeff Beiriger

Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors, Wisconsin Association

Joe Hertel

Wisconsin Electrical Trades Council

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Martin King

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Tim Schmitz

International Code Council

Tom Clark

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC


This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on May 16, 2016.

Summary of February 3, 2016 Member Meeting

posted Feb 29, 2016, 7:09 AM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: February 3, 2016

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin



The meeting was convened at 9:05 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont reported that he had received a preliminary bill draft from the office of Representative Samantha Kerkman on February 2, 2016. DuPont suggested he work with Chief Bloom and others on the Carbon Monoxide Detection Work Group to review the draft to see if it meets our intent, and to develop a recommended response for consideration by all ARC members.

Regarding the idea for owner’s choice of code application DuPont reported on his communications with nine other organizations about their interest in this matter. He said the American Institute of Architects, Wisconsin Society and the League of Wisconsin Municipalities indicated that they were not interested in pursuing this issue now. DuPont said that Wisconsin Manufactures and Commerce indicated they would not support the issue, but that he did not ask them if they would oppose the idea if legislation were introduced. He said Brad Boycks, of the Wisconsin Builders Association, asked to meet after the current legislative session is over, in March or April. And the DHS Advisory Group REC-2 indicated that the concept could not likely be used for health care facilities due to federal regulations.

John Schulze said a representative of the WMC asked him about the idea after DuPont had contacted them. He said they wanted to know how the ABC felt about the idea. John said he told them the ABC had not yet formally endorsed the idea but probably will if the ARC moves forward with it. He said he feels the WMC would probably not oppose owner’s choice legislation if it were introduced.

DuPont indicated it might be easier to engage additional organizations in this effort after the current legislative session has ended; saying many organization lobbyists are busy with end of session activities.

DuPont asked again for example projects that could help illustrate the need for owner’s choice being included in state statutes. Richard Paur said the new Bucks arena in Milwaukee is going to be designed and constructed under the 2015 International Building Code; with the owner already getting the needed variance from the City of Milwaukee. Ed Ruckriegel recalled that several major projects in Madison were designed and built according to editions of ICC codes that were newer than what the state was then using. He listed the Kohl’s Center, the Overture Center and Monona Terrace as examples.

After discussion of additional strategies to pursue, DuPont asked whether there was support for him contacting the DSPS about the owner’s choice idea and about reviewing department records concerning petitions for variance to use newer model codes and standards. There was general agreement that DuPont should do so. DuPont said he would report progress on such contact during the next ARC Member Meeting.

Regarding the DSPS change in plumber licensing without rules or council consult Jeff Beiriger provided a recap of the recent action by the DSPS which changed the journeyman plumber license application form relative to applicants wishing to use experience or training gained outside of Wisconsin. The revised form contained an outline of standards for such experience and training. Those standards were developed outside of the administrative rule promulgation process and were developed by the DSPS without consult with the statutory Plumbers Council. He said the form was subsequently changed again following a meeting between the PHCC-Wisconsin, Plumbers Local 75 and the DSPS.

Jeff said the form change reflected a disturbing trend where the DSPS fails to utilize advisory councils or code committees. He said there is not much opportunity for the plumbing industry to provide input to the DSPS; and the plumbing industry is quite sensitive to changes made unilaterally by the DSPS.

Jeff provided an overview of the Plumbers Council and its role. He said the plumbing industry is not advocating council meetings with no purpose, but lack of meetings does not reflect a lack of need for such councils. Jeff said by consulting with the Plumbers Council regarding revisions to the license application process and standards the DSPS would have learned of issues before implementing a new form instead of afterwards. Equity between experience and training gained within Wisconsin as compared to that gained outside of Wisconsin is a major concern of the plumbing industry, but with no meeting of the Plumbers Council before the unilateral action by the DSPS such concerns were not able to be brought forward.

Jeff thanked the ARC for opposing 2015 Assembly Bill 726 and Senate Bill 568, which propose to delete the Plumbers Council, among other things. He asked that the ARC continue to meet and discuss DSPS operations and issues throughout 2016; saying that many in the plumbing industry feel disconnected from the DSPS and that ARC helps keep them informed and involved.

Regarding DSPS code development progress members discussed the following points.

  • Commercial Building Code – Richard Paur reported that the commercial building code council is targeting January 2018 as the effective date of the Commercial Code Update. He said the council has completed their review of the International Building Code and is almost done with their review of the International Existing Buildings Code. They are now reviewing the International Mechanical Code and are set to review the International Fuel Gas Code and International Energy Conservation Code by the middle of 2016. Richard reported that the Commercial Building Code Council will hold a meeting with listening session on February 15, 2016, concurrent with the UW Code Refresher in Madison.
  • Electrical Code – Joe Hertel reported that the Electrical Code Committee is expected to next meet in April for a presentation by Tim McClintock of the National Fire Protection Association, about the 2017 edition of the National Electrical Code. The DSPS has announced that they plan on next adopting the 2017 NEC, instead of the 2014 edition.
  • Plumbing, Public Swimming Pools and Blasting Codes – DuPont reported that Jeff Weigand of the DSPS recently announced that these are the next three code update projects of the DSPS.
  • SPS 360, Soil Erosion for Commercial Building Construction Sites – DuPont reminded that this chapter still has not been revised to reflect the 2013 Budget Act which transferred regulation of large construction sites (one acre or more of land disturbance) to the DNR. He said perhaps the ARC would like to formally encourage DSPS to revise this code. DuPont said he will check with John Schulze about this issue since ABC was a proponent of the program transfer to DNR.

Regarding 2015 Senate Bill 698 (which was introduced the day before) DuPont said he would review the bill and provide comments to ARC members as soon as possible. He reminded attendees that earlier in the day he suggested via email that the ARC testify for information during the Senate Committee on Government Operations and Consumer Protection public hearing on the bill on February 4th. DuPont recommended that the Alliance request the committee to defer action on the bill to allow more time for DSPS customers to review, understand and react to the bill before committee action is taken.

No ARC members reported being consulted or informed by the DSPS concerning the changes contained in the bill. DuPont said many aspects of the bill seemed reasonable in light of the recent formation of the DSPS. However, he acknowledged that parts of the proposal seem to be substantive policy changes that have apparently been developed without the input of DSPS customers groups.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for April 27, 2016, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 a.m.

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Corey Gall

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Ed Ruckriegel

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

Jeff Beiriger (phone)

Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors, Wisconsin Association

Joe Hertel

Wisconsin Electrical Trades Council

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze (phone)

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Martin King (phone)

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Richard P. Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Satula (phone)

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Steve Breitlow

Plumbers Local 75

Tim Schmitz

International Code Council

Tom Clark

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Tom Johnson

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC



This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on February 29, 2016.

Summary of October 21, 2015 Member Meeting

posted Nov 11, 2015, 10:00 AM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: October 21, 2015

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin




The meeting was convened at 9:10 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

Regarding possible carbon monoxide update legislation DuPont reported that he and Chief David Bloom met with Representative Samantha Kerkman on October 14th to request she introduce a bill to update state statutes dealing with carbon monoxide detection in residential commercial buildings. Representative Kerkman said she would have a bill drafted and would seek a Senate Co-author.

Regarding the idea for owner’s choice of code application DuPont asked ARC members to report to him any cases where potential building owners wanted to use the newer national model codes instead of the present Wisconsin Commercial Building Code. He said it would be helpful to have real life examples of the problem that the owner’s choice proposal is trying to address.

There was agreement that DuPont should contact other organizations as potential partners in this effort. Progress on those communications will be discussed during the next ARC Member Meeting.

Regarding the draft Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement drafted by Wisconsin Division of Emergency Management, attendees agreed that ARC should recommend use of the same four geographical regions used by the four building inspector associations in the state; instead of the six regions now used by WEM, and the Wisconsin Emergency Management Response Plan. DuPont said he would verify those four regions and would communicate this new recommendation to the team working on the Building Inspection Mutual Assistance Agreement with WEM.

Regarding pending legislation DuPont recapped the status of the following legislative proposals.
  • AB 190; Electrician licensing – The Assembly Labor Committee voted in favor on 10-7-15.
  • SB 87; Renovations to UDC dwellings – Passed the Senate on 9-16-15.
  • SB 81; Restrictions on municipal licensing of occupations – Passed the Senate on 6-9-15. It has been referred to the Assembly Committee on Rules for scheduling of an Assembly floor vote.

Regarding DSPS code development progress members discussed the following points.
  • Commercial Building Code – Richard Paur reported that the commercial building code committee is almost done with their initial review of the 2012 and 2015 editions of the International Building Code. They still have to address IBC Chapter 34 dealing with existing structures and IBC Chapter 17 dealing with special inspections. Next they will review the International Existing Buildings Code.
  • Electrical Code – The code committee has met twice; with DSPS now saying they would like to target the 2017 National Electric Code for adoption. Rachel Jaeb reported that the DSPS did not originally appoint a representative of the National Electrical Contractors Association-Wisconsin Chapter to the committee. They have historically had a member on the committee. Secretary Ross said he would appoint a NECA-WI representative as soon as possible.
  • Plumbing Code and Public Swimming Pool Code – Per Hannah Zillmer, of the DSPS, the department is in the process of forming advisory code committees for updating these codes.
  • SPS 360, Soil Erosion for Commercial Building Construction Sites – DuPont reported that this chapter has not been revised to reflect the 2013 Budget Act which transferred regulation of large construction sites (one acre or more of land disturbance) to the DNR. Richard Paur said he will ask members of the Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance whether this has presented a problem to them. DuPont said he will check with John Schulze and John Mielke of the Associated Builders and Contractors, Wisconsin Chapter to them the same question.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for February 3, 2016, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 a.m.

 

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

Ed Ruckriegel

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

Martin King

Wisconsin Fire Protection Coalition

Rachel Jaeb

National Association of Electrical Contractors, Wisconsin Chapter

Richard P. Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC

 

This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on November 11, 2015.

Priorities of the Alliance as of July 22, 2015

posted Aug 26, 2015, 3:18 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Priorities


As of July 22, 2015





1) Stop the lapsing of funds from the Safety and Buildings Appropriation.

Between 2001 and 2013, over $13.7 million of Industry Services fee revenue has been lapsed to the state general fund. That is more than $95,000 per month that was collected but not spent on the safety and building programs for which the fees were paid.


2) Encourage the DSPS to maintain a focus on customers with customer involvement in DSPS decisions regarding services of the Industry Services Division.

The Alliance supports use of advisory code councils for periodic updating of administrative codes concerning safety and buildings.


3) Improve the deployment of resources among programs and services for safety and buildings.

The Alliance supports the use of consistent criteria for deployment of resources among programs and services related to safety and buildings.


4) Improve coordination of state and municipal regulatory efforts for safety and buildings.

ARC members believe that state policies can be most efficiently and effectively administered through cooperative efforts of state and municipal programs and personnel.


5) Encourage remedial legislation on carbon monoxide detectors in residential commercial buildings.

ARC members want to focus on protecting sleeping areas from the hazard of carbon monoxide while eliminating the statewide mandate for periodic inspection of carbon monoxide detector installations.


6) Encourage legislation that would allow a building owner the choice of having newer national model codes and standards apply to their building construction project.

ARC members believe owner’s choice of code application will help spur economic development while promoting safe buildings. Use of new codes and standards can also result in savings on insurance premiums.


7) Encourage promulgation of administrative rules for credentialing inspectors of fire detection, prevention, and suppression devices in accordance with 2013 Wisconsin Act 270.

Act 270 requires such credentials, beginning on May 2017, for persons performing inspections of fire detection, prevention, and suppression devices being installed during the construction or alteration of, or the addition to, public buildings and places of employment.


8) Encourage code update activity specifically for:
  • Implementing electrical inspection for commercial buildings under 2007 Wis. Act 63 and 2013 Wis. Act 143.
  • Reviewing the 2015 editions of ICC codes to update the State Commercial Building Code.
  • Reviewing the 2015 edition of NFPA 1 to update the State Fire Prevention Code.
  • Reviewing the State Uniform Plumbing Code for necessary updates and clarifications.

9) Participate in Wisconsin Emergency Management efforts to create Building Safety Evaluation Strike Teams to help respond to disasters.

ARC members encourage disaster mitigation through use of appropriate safety codes, and they encourage disaster response by qualified volunteers who help assess building safety.


10) Explore the idea for statewide inspection of commercial building construction.

ARC members believe exploration is appropriate in light of the gap that exists between the Wisconsin Uniform Dwelling Code and the Wisconsin Uniform Commercial Building Code. While the dwelling code requires inspections, the commercial building code does not. Exploration will focus on inspections as recommended by the International Code Council. Dialogue will involve all interested ARC members as well as others involved in building design, construction, regulation and emergency response activities throughout Wisconsin.

Summary of Member Meeting on July 22, 2015

posted Aug 26, 2015, 3:06 PM by Robert DuPont



Alliance for Regulatory Coordination

Summary of Member Meeting


Meeting Date: July 22, 2015

Location: Associated Builders and Contractors (ABC) of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin



The meeting was convened at 9:04 a.m. by Bob DuPont, of Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC. Attendees introduced themselves and identified the organizations they were representing.

Regarding the provision in 2015 Wisconsin Act 55 which prohibits time of sale requirements
, DuPont started the dialogue by asking if municipal orders to repair defects transfer from old to new owners of the property. Richard Paur said the City of Milwaukee reissues orders to the new property owners. Joel Meier said there is often a lag time of weeks or months before code officials learn the identity of the new building owner.

There was general recognition that the new law does not prohibit issuance of corrective orders. However, the new law does prohibit such orders from restricting sale of the property and it prohibits orders from containing deadlines for performing corrective measures within a certain period of time after selling, refinancing, or transferring title to, a property.

Richard Paur noted that the new law applies to any type of building, not just one- and two-family dwellings. DuPont asked if anyone felt the new law would affect initial occupancy permits in the case of turn-key construction. Richard Paur, Scott Satula and Tom Johnson all indicated they did not feel that was the case.

DuPont asked if there was interest in having dialogue with Tom Larson, of the Wisconsin Realtors Association, about their intent when they requested this change to state law. There was agreement that such dialogue would likely be helpful, and suggestions for dialogue topics were made.

DuPont said he would contact Tom Larson and initiate dialogue on the topics identified by the group. He suggested it might be helpful for Tom to attend the next ARC member meeting.

Regarding pending legislation DuPont recapped the status of the following legislative proposals. The group decided that additional actions by the Alliance are not needed at this time.
  • Renovations to UDC dwellings; AB 111 and SB 87
  • Restrictions on municipal licensing of occupations; SB 81 and AB 116
  • Electrician licensing; AB 190
Regarding ARC activities and priorities DuPont reviewed the July 2015 status report for the ten ARC priorities decided on July 24, 2014. Nine of the ten priority matters are still underway, with progress being made in most. One matter, the elimination of duplicate plan reviews for community based residential facilities and hospices, was successfully achieved through inclusion in 2015 Wisconsin Act 55, the state Budget Act. DuPont suggested this topic be removed from the list and the group concurred.

Discussion centered on progress and next steps related to: legislation for carbon monoxide detectors in residential commercial buildings; possible legislation that would allow a building owner the choice of having newer national model codes and standards apply to their building construction project; and promulgation of administrative rules for credentialing inspectors of safety systems as required by law.

Discussion included the idea of adding a new ARC priority to the list. DuPont recommended that exploration of the idea for statewide inspection of commercial building construction be added as a priority. He recounted that this topic was previously worked on by members of the ARC Fire Safety Team and was put on hold in due to the development of Act 270. After brief discussion, and recollection of past efforts in this regard, there was consensus among attendees to add this topic to the list of ARC priorities.

The next meeting of Alliance Members was scheduled for October 21, 2015, from 9:00 to 10:30 a.m. The meeting will be held at the offices of the Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin.

The meeting was adjourned at 10:40 a.m.

Meeting Attendees

Organization Represented

Brian Flannery

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Dave Bloom

Wisconsin State Fire Chiefs Association

James Smith

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Joe Hertel

Wisconsin Electrical Trades Council

Joel Meier

Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin

John Schulze

Associated Builders and Contractors of Wisconsin

Richard P. Paur

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Satula

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Scott Wegner

Wisconsin State Fire Inspectors Association

Tom Johnson

Wisconsin Code Officials Alliance

Bob DuPont

Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC

 

This summary was prepared by Bob DuPont, Regulatory Guidance and Design, LLC.

It was issued on August 26, 2015.

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